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First usage
[edit]As far as I know the word DIVA was first used for MAria Callas after her firts performance of the aria 'Casta Dive' in Bellini's opera 'Norma'. She was truely divine. small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by Politi (talk • contribs) 19:32, 11 June 2006 You're an idiot if you think the word was made just for Maria Callas. He didn't say it was 'made' for Callas. You can't read, and that makes YOU the idiot. It was first use for Maria Callas, that is quite correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.17.12 (talk) 17:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
German Wikipedia article is something different. Why? First diva was Maria Malibran (1808–1836, „La Malibran“) and diva is derived from latin divus. Sarah Bernardt was called a diva — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.134.56.165 (talk) 06:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
'Diva' as an insult
[edit]The word "diva" is often used as an insult to describe performers (actors, singers, or any other such entertainers) who, often after an initial success, begin to hold a high opinion of themselves--expecting special treatment, etc...
Example: Jamie Fox has often been described as a "Diva" due to his behavior after his oscar win as seen on the set of miami vice and exemplified by his traveling with an entourage.
I think a section should be added to this article covering this usage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.167.87 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 5 August 2006
- How is that an insult? Boipussi 11:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- To me this sounds like another improper appropriation of vocabulary by American media. See usage of 'literally', 'begging the question', 'irregardless' &c. It should not be added to the wiki (at this point in time at least.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.81.8.4 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 24 December 2006
- Gee, sounds like some UK English speaker is acting like a Diva. Got to love the arrogance and condescension - look at a population distribution of native English speakers, and surprise, surprise you'll see the majority of them are speaking American English. So not "improper appropriation" but language evolution. In a typical American dictionary, after the above definition is a second "a vain or undisciplined person who finds it difficult to work under direction or as part of a team" Since Wiki is supposedly a world-wide tool, it should reflect the predominant language's definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.153 (talk) 10:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- To me this sounds like another improper appropriation of vocabulary by American media. See usage of 'literally', 'begging the question', 'irregardless' &c. It should not be added to the wiki (at this point in time at least.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.81.8.4 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 24 December 2006
Oh, great, now we have thick ignorant nasty anti-UK racism ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.17.12 (talk) 17:08, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, the word "Diva" is an insult in Sweden. I'm looking at that in Nationalencyklopedin (the biggest encyklopedia in Sweden) right now.83.176.233.64 17:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Dames
[edit]Shouldn't it be Dame Joan Sutherland to match the other Dames in the list??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.67.114 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 9 January 2007
- You bet my friend! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.216.210.200 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 4 May 2007
No it's a musical term. Let's keep it as that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.67.29.250 (talk) 17:33, 1 September 2011 (UTC) How is that remotely relevant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.17.12 (talk) 17:09, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Categories
[edit]Should this article belong to the "Divas" category? --Jerome Potts 09:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Modern versus traditional context?
[edit]The word Diva has been used in an operatic context for at least a couple of hundred years, with it's more modern usage (in my experience) as some feminine synonym of 'hustla' or whatnot being only fairly recent. So should this article really begin with the sentence "A diva is a female version of a hustla"? The first non-opera reference that I can remember is Annie Lennox's album Diva from the early 1990s, and then it was applied to Whitney Houston after The Bodyguard and it's soundtrack's success; only very recently (as in since the turn of the millennium, as far as I can tell without actually searching) has it been applied to the hip-hop genera in any way, which I suppose would allow it to be the synonym to 'hustla.' (Yes, Will's mother and her sisters on "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" called each other Divas, but I don't think that they meant to call each other 'hustla!')
Modern information is required in the wiki, of that I am certain. However, in just the few minutes that I just took looking through online dictionaries, the term Diva is not a synonym for 'hustla.' Only once ( [1] ) could I find it referring to anything other than a singer, and I think that needs to be clearly stated.
the infamous rmx (talk) 20:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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