Talk:Learning theory (education)

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many have split off from the mainstream holding that learning is a primarily self taught thing, and that the ideal learning situation is one that is self taught. According to this dogma, learning at its basic level is all self taught, and class rooms should be eliminated since they do not fit the perfect model of self learning. However, real world results indicate that isolated students fail. Social support seems crucial for sustained learning.

I've made bold the items in question. Are there sources to back this up or is this the opinion of the contributior? As far as using the term "real world results", that's vague and subjective. "Isolated students fail"? According to whom? There is no mention of nor link to autodidactism, whose very definition proves otherwise.

Information Processing Learning Theory

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References

^ Schunk, D.H.(1991). Learning theories: An educational perspective. New York, NY, England: Macmillan Publishing Co, Inc. (1991). xi 402 pp.

To Do List

It is good to be inclusive when brainstorming, but I have a few objections to the suggested list. I suggest that the "paradigms" be behaviorism, cognitivism, humanism, developmental, and social. Constructivism is just not of the same type as these categories. Constructivism, in my opinion, should be viewed as an instructional theory grounded in cognitive learning theory. GOMS seems to me to be neither a learning theory nor particularly behaviorist. Things like problem-based learning and communities of practice are instructional theories or methods which need only be listed as founded on, e.g., cognitive or behavioral theory, without elaboration (people can go to those pages if they want more). The list, I think, omits Bandura's Social Cognitive Theory, which textbooks often put under behaviorism, but may be better labeled a social theory. Design theories have no place on this page in my opinion as they are neither learning theories nor instructional theories. Descriptive and meta theories have no place on this page in my opinion. Bloom's taxonomy, for example, should be mentioned as part of cognitive theory (if at all). Identity, moral, and personality theories are questionable on a page about learning theory, which is not to say they have no relevance to education. Multiple intelligences is simply a taxonomy, not a theory, and like Bloom's taxonomy should be linked to a learning theory (if if can be so linked). Robotczar (talk) 20:32, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A scholarly literature search would show development as part of Cognitive philosophy, social as part of Humanist philosophy, and Constructivism as a distinct philosophy of education Stmullin (talk) 18:42, 12 January 2014 (UTC) Where would you suggest that the taxonomies be placed?Stmullin (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Just added the taxonomies to Cognitive perspective on the to do list.Stmullin (talk) 20:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)Direct Instruction and Waldorf education are instructional theories but those links also have information relevant to learning theories which need to be tied into this page. Stmullin (talk) 21:14, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

from theory to philosophy

To be viable, a philosophy of education needs to include a theory of knowledge, a theory of ethics, and a theory of human nature.^[1] It should also "propound views about what education should be, what dispositions it should cultivate, why it ought to cultivate them, how and in whom it should do so, and what forms it should take," which would include a psychology of learning and teaching methodologies.^[2]

References

^ Peters, R.S. (1977). Education and the education of teachers (Reprinted. ed.). London: Routledge & K. Paul. p. 77. ISBN 0710084692.
^ Guthrie, James W. (2002). "Philosophy of Education". In Frankena, William K.; Raybeck, Nathan; Burbules, Nicholas (eds.). Encyclopedia of Education, 2nd edition. New York, NY: Macmillan Reference. ISBN 0-02-865594-X. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)

Stmullin (talk) 01:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Class project?

It appears that this article is subject of a class project. I have posted at Wikipedia:Education_noticeboard#Learning_theory_.28education.29_and_Learning_styles/

Andreahowes, Allegraschiff, Ashleyschnaar, Matt Ferkany, Cieraalmanza, Richada Brown, Madisonkelly11, Jasminevang, AnyaNiehaus, Andreyavail are you working on this as part of a class? Some of you are also working on Learning styles‎. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 00:50, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Andreahowes, Allegraschiff, Ashleyschnaar, Matt Ferkany, Cieraalmanza, and Richada Brown: @Madisonkelly11, Jasminevang, AnyaNiehaus, and Andreyavail: Hi all. I'm Ryan with the Wikipedia Education Foundation. We provide support and tools to instructors and students working on Wikipedia class assignments. Could one of you please connect me to your instructor? He or she can leave a message on my Wikipedia talk page or email ryan [at] wikiedu [dot] org. Thanks! --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was asked at the board i linked to above, to say what is going wrong. Students are adding unsourced content, too closely paraphrased content, nonencyclopedic content (long, chatty, too much quotation), not considering UNDUE, and are adding the same content to the two different articles, obliterating the difference between them. typical student errors. Jytdog (talk) 16:13, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

i quit. this article is getting meat puppeted by edit warring students acting without guidance. disaster. unwatching. Jytdog (talk) 01:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ian (Wiki Ed) and Jytdog: I've reached out to the professor by email, but the students seem mostly unresponsive on-wiki. Do you think it's worth RPP? That there are at least sources and the quotes I grabbed to look for blatant copyright issues did not return other ghits makes me think no, but you two would know better. I certainly understand the feeling of futility when trying to respond to problematic edits when more just keep coming. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 03:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that no one else is watching this page... or no one else finds the edits problematic. I will just let this be. Jytdog (talk) 10:20, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The edits are a real mixed bag. Some are obviously student-written with an overreliance on one source (presumably their textbook). Others are a bit better. But many suffer from style problems and technical issues. And all of this uncoordinated work by editors who are making no effort whatsoever to work with or even consider how their work and behavior impacts the larger project and other Wikipedia editors is extremely frustrating because it's damn disrespectful and in the end will cause us a significant amount of extra work.

Temporary semi-protection may be the only way to get their attention since these editors are otherwise ignoring all other efforts to communicate and work with other editors. @Ryan (Wiki Ed):, is this something you can facilitate or should Jytdog or I head to WP:RFPP? ElKevbo (talk) 11:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ElKevbo: Thanks for taking a look. I'm not an admin, so can't spp, but if you feel that would be the best move then yes, I would urge you to head to WP:RFPP. Realistically, even if I were an admin, I'd shy away from taking article-level admin actions in my WikiEdu staff capacity for all but the most urgent situations, but that's a separate conversation. Here's hoping the instructor gets back to me soon :/ --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:46, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Level of teaching theory - there are three type of teaching theory ? 1 - memory level of teaching ( MLT) 2 - understanding level of teaching (ULT) 3 - reflecting level to teaching (RLT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.155.194 (talk) 11:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria for including external links?

A new editor with an apparent conflict of interest is edit warring to include a new link in the "External links" section of this article. Setting aside the behavioral issues, this raises the question of what criteria should be used to determine what belongs in the EL section of this article. Right now, there are five links (including the one being shoved into the article via an edit war):

Social Science Research Network. How to Become an Expert Law Teacher by Understanding the Neurobiology of Learning
ERIC Digest. How People Learn (and What Technology Might Have To Do with It)
Instructional Design Learning theories
Learning theories Wiki Learning theories
Discourses on Learning in Education

Until we can figure out a consensus on inclusion criteria, here's my opinion on these specific links:

The first link should be removed; the link doesn't work and from the title of the article it's way too limited in scope to be applicable in this article.
The second link should be removed; it's also too limited in scope to really be helpful to readers. It's also of unclear provenance: Was this ever published anywhere? Was it peer reviewed? Did it have a meaningful impact?
The third link is okay. It's a decent list of resources and the authors are credible experts in this field. It certainly is on-topic and provides information beyond what we can include in this article.
The fourth link should be removed. It's an okay list of resources but the expertise of the authors is unclear.
The fifth link should be removed. It's an interesting resource and the authors are credible experts in the field. But the resource is quite limited as it seems to only draw upon publications from authors. Additionally, it appears that one of the authors has begun editing this article and is engaged in an edit war to add this link; that is a clear conflict of interest that must be discouraged.

ElKevbo (talk) 22:25, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism section

The two links in the criticism section (74 and 75) link to books that are supportive of a constructivist school, they definitely don't advocate for sticking to 'traditional methods' as the section claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.180.92.37 (talk) 11:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Plato section

The end few sentences for Plato's section seem speculative/normative 137.99.223.44 (talk) 01:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Schunk, D.H.(1991). Learning theories: An educational perspective. New York, NY, England: Macmillan Publishing Co, Inc. (1991). xi 402 pp.

[2] Peters, R.S. (1977). Education and the education of teachers (Reprinted. ed.). London: Routledge & K. Paul. p. 77. ISBN 0710084692.

[POEE-3] Guthrie, James W. (2002). "Philosophy of Education". In Frankena, William K.; Raybeck, Nathan; Burbules, Nicholas (eds.). Encyclopedia of Education, 2nd edition. New York, NY: Macmillan Reference. ISBN 0-02-865594-X. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)

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