Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berkeley High Jacket
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was No Consensus -> Keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Student newspaper for a school we don't have an article on. RickK 04:32, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and expand - Notable student newspaper in large California city. Alternately, merge into Berkeley High School (California) and redirect. --FCYTravis 04:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Until someone actually writes the school's article...delete. Harro5 04:48, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep or merge into an article about the high school, seems to have a claim to notability based on the article. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:22, 2005 May 24 (UTC)
- keep this please a merge is ok too Yuckfoo 17:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/redirect per FCYTravis. — RJH 19:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm sure that the people who go to that high school are well served by this student newspaper. But it's a student newspaper. Delete. Jacob1207 23:19, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is a student newspaper inherently less notable than a professional newspaper? Is a weekly rag published to serve a county of 1,000 people worthy of an article because it's professional and a student newspaper serving a college of 100,000 not because it's "student"? I work for a student newspaper and while I'd certainly never start an article on it for ethical reasons, if someone did, our paper is clearly deserving of an article. --FCYTravis 07:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I could start an article about the way my friend's blog. That doesn't mean the blog is deserving of an article. Xcali 23:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Your friend's blog hasn't won 9 National Newspaper Pacemaker Awards in the last 11 years. (The Pacemaker is the Pulitzer Prize of college journalism.) --FCYTravis 00:26, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- You missed my point. Your argument was essentially, "This is deserving of an article because someone wrote an article." That circular reasoning doesn't fly around here. Regarding the awards, that might be notable, but how would I know that from reading this article? Xcali 15:11, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- No, you missed my point. I was arguing that student newspapers aren't inherently less notable because they're "student"-operated as opposed to professional papers. They *might* be less notable, but that's not clear simply from being student-run, as Jacob was arguing. --FCYTravis 16:39, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- You missed my point. Your argument was essentially, "This is deserving of an article because someone wrote an article." That circular reasoning doesn't fly around here. Regarding the awards, that might be notable, but how would I know that from reading this article? Xcali 15:11, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Your friend's blog hasn't won 9 National Newspaper Pacemaker Awards in the last 11 years. (The Pacemaker is the Pulitzer Prize of college journalism.) --FCYTravis 00:26, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I could start an article about the way my friend's blog. That doesn't mean the blog is deserving of an article. Xcali 23:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is a student newspaper inherently less notable than a professional newspaper? Is a weekly rag published to serve a county of 1,000 people worthy of an article because it's professional and a student newspaper serving a college of 100,000 not because it's "student"? I work for a student newspaper and while I'd certainly never start an article on it for ethical reasons, if someone did, our paper is clearly deserving of an article. --FCYTravis 07:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The article makes a clear case for the uniqueness of the school paper and its notability. DoubleBlue (Talk) 03:11, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge no reason to loose the text, but no reason for it's own article at this point. Vegaswikian 05:13, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, extremely NN. Radiant_* 08:48, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge Most schools have a newspaper. I don't see how this one is notable. Xcali 23:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge when Berkeley High School article is created. This paper has attained widespread recognition. --Andy M. 20:01, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Karol 20:05, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep FCYTravis has a good point, which is rare for those who carry the argument deep into the indents. --Unfocused 04:13, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete non notable. JamesBurns 10:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- For those who have said this article is non-notable, I encourage you to re-read it, specifically this passage: "In the late 1990s, the paper gained widespread prominence after breaking a story in Berkeley that resulted in criminal prosecution." I agree that we should perhaps consider merging this article once an article on Berkeley High School is written, but until then, it stands on its own as a legitimate article and the content should not be lost. --Andy M. 05:31, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I never thought I'd vote keep on a high school VfD (much less a HS newspaper VfD), but given its apparent role in the Reddy case, this merits inclusion. (This was left by User:JosephBarillari)
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