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Vanier College was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep

Vanier College

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School substub. Not notable as far as I can tell. [[User:Xezbeth|Xezbeth]] 15:06, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • Keep.--[[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 17:58, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Just clarifying, you did actually read the article, then checked the school to see if it's notable? The article consists of a location and an external link, and thats all that can be really said about it without being sub-trivial. [[User:Xezbeth|Xezbeth]] 18:46, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete, Wikipedia isn't a school directory. There's nothing remotely interesting about it. Has no chance of becoming encyclopedic. (Maybe merge with location article if possible). [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:34, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. CEGEPs are more than notable than high schools. - SimonP 21:51, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. School. anthony 警告 23:13, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Can I request that those in favour of deleting schools cease haranguing those who want them kept? I don't see any of these editors commenting when there is an unexplained delete vote. Dr Zen 23:48, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Just a question: Where is the harangue on this vote?
  • delete. I'm sure it's a nice school, but vanity entries should be strongly discouraged. --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway Talk ]] 00:15, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Comment I don't see how an NPOV substub is a vanity page. Also, Vanier College has about the same notability as other CEGEPs that weren't listed. See CEGEP for the listing. 132.205.45.155 00:52, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep it. Agree with Mr. Anonymous IP 132.205.45.155 that a school substub is hardly vanity. —[[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 02:07, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • What is a CEGEP? It's never stated on the page, and I believe that articles ought to answer questions, not pose them, and should expand acronymns before using them. Colleges and universities have typically been "in," so I don't have a problem if it's a post-secondary institution (and there are reasons for the distinction that have nothing to do with age of student). Geogre 04:00, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Your question could have easily been answered here or even here, but in short, a CEGEP is a post-secondary educational institution of sorts unique to Quebec which serves as an intermediary school before one goes off to attend university. If you live in the United States, the closest analogy to a CEGEP would be community college. —[[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 06:42, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • I saw the wikilink, but my point was that the article steamrolls ahead as if there were a project to get every CEGEP in Wikipedia and, of course, we all already know what one is. I'm not fond of such assembly line articles, and, more to the point, I don't think that an acronymn should be used before the expansion, unless it's such a common acronymn as to be in common knowledge. I'm not sure community colleges in the US, certainly, are notable by nature. Still abstaining on this one. Geogre 15:00, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable. --ShaunMacPherson 08:04, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • 'Merge with Saint-Laurent, Quebec (not to mention that it could be expanded) and delete - Skysmith 09:55, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • COMMENT Vanier College is more notable than the average CEGEP, because it is one of the few English language CEGEPs in Quebec, a French speaking part of North America that actively seeks to extinguish English through restrictive laws on access to English education and use in business and financial documents. 132.205.15.43 02:34, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Merge with Saint-Laurent, Quebec. The notable alumni aren't notable (they're all red links), so there's not really that much worth keeping in this article. Average Earthman 10:49, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable. --YUL89YYZ 17:44, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
  • keep.Yuckfoo 01:54, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Just as notable as all of the other CEGEPs. Seeing that all English language CEGEPs have at minimum a stub on Wikipedia, enough people are interested to warrant their inclusion. -- JamesTeterenko 04:02, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's got potential for a more significant article. CWood 04:12, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Post-secondary school. The Steve 01:44, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Significant post-secondary institution. Notable beyond Saint Laurent, Quebec; so a merge and delete is inappropriate. Samaritan 06:39, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Intrigue 21:16, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • COMMENT -- Can we agree if the strange animals known as CÉGEPs are notable in themselves or need something else? They dispense ISCED 97 Level 4A and 5B (pdf) education. For the benefit of our American readers, their High school is 3A and Universities at the bachelor and masters are 5A. As Rad Man pointed out, they're a lot like Community colleges, but I believe these dispense bona fide, if incomplete, 5A education. A lot of Cégeps have famous Alumni and profs (literary authors, for instance), but, despite some effort, the research at this level is next to insignificant. Apart from the most (Bréboeuf, for instance) or least (Saint-Laurent) prestigious, where someone went to Cégep is not particularly important. -- Céçaquiéça 04:56, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Not notable. Spinboy 17:49, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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