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"Abuse"? A bit of bias here. What about Capitol?
[edit]In America, "From Me to You" backed with "Thank You Girl" was released on May 6 by Vee-Jay Records, a record label which would become notorious for their abuse of Beatlemania by releasing misleading albums, although the same could be said for other record labels such as Swan Records.
...er, what about Capitol Records? Up until Sgt. Pepper, they were more than happy to carve up the Beatles' output to create their own shameless cash-ins (Beatles VI, etc.) America didn't get the proper Parlophone Beatles albums until the 1980s.
Also, if it wasn't for Capitol's head-in-the-sand attitude, and their inability to see the Beatles' excellence, George Martin wouldn't have had to sell the early Beatles recordings to lesser record labels in the first place. (There's an interview with Sir George in this month's Record Collector, and it's obvious that he's still bitter about this 40 years on.) 217.155.20.163 01:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- The sections on the U.S. release of the song have been extensively re-written. Cheemo 02:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
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Unheard of?
[edit]The idea of singing the song's opening lick—the "da da da da da dum dum da" part—was suggested by George Martin, the Beatles' producer; this was at the time an unheard-of innovation.
I don't know in what sense this could be considered unheard-of. In 1960 Roy Orbison started "Only the Lonely" with "Dum, dum, dum, dum-de-do-wah". Neil Sedaka made it something of a trademark ("come-a come-a down, dooby-doo down down..." etc.). Can't see that the Beatles' were innovative in that regard. Gr8white (talk) 05:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I decided to check the reference cited and it does support the statement...sort of. It says the Beatles had never heard of a rock and roll performer singing the opening licks. Guess they never listened to Neil Sedaka records...or Jan and Dean (cf. "Heart and Soul")...I still don't like the way it's worded and will try to come up with an alternative. Gr8white (talk) 05:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Sample
[edit]That's I Am the Walrus, not From Me to You. 71.188.51.58 (talk) 13:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh, nevermind, I was importing Magical Mystery Tour and I Am the Walrus played. Sorry. 71.188.51.58 (talk) 14:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Album Availability
[edit]The song was not issued on any Beatle LP until 1966... Not quite true. It was on the Capitol of Canada LP Twist and Shout, released in Jan. 1964. Oddly enough, the song's first appearance on a US LP was Vee Jay's Jolly What! The Beatles and Frank Ifield on Stage, released in Feb. of that year. Gr8white (talk) 00:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Melody and lyrics; verse count
[edit]I think there are 5 repetitions of the verse rather than 4. The overall structure is
Intro, A A B A, A B A Coda.
The first half of the fourth A is instrumental. I'll change the article in a few days if I've not started a controversy. PeterGrecian (talk) 15:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
"From Me to You" vs. "From Me To You"
[edit]Before I begin a request for a change to the page name, I'd like to hear rational and sourced explanations on why the word "To" is the only one not capitalized in the song's title. It seems quite odd to me that this would be the only word not officially capitalized along with the others, and I'm wondering if this was done to avoid a conflict with user-created "templates". While keeping these templates consistent for one (or a group of) editor's advantage is clear, unauthorized changes in official song titles do little to inform the average Wikipedia viewer of correct information. Please Please explain why "to" is not "To"... Doc9871 (talk) 08:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with templates; it has to do with WP naming conventions. See WP:CAPS and Wikipedia:ALBUMCAPS. — John Cardinal (talk) 13:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- Makes sense now. Thanks for clarifying that for me... Doc9871 (talk) 18:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
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Number One?
[edit]Till now, I have never in my life heard that anyone considers this their first Number One in England. The statement that "Please Please Me" was only Number Two on one chart seems rather nitpicky to me, and way to many words are devoted to it. Also, .".. Record Retailer's chart, generally considered to be the most authoritative for the time . ." really ought to have a citation, especially if it's the basis for this "controversy".--Daveler16 (talk) 03:42, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Melody and lyrics again
[edit]Other WP articles on Beatles songs associate noteworthy melody bits with their lyrics and lyrics syllables where possible to make it easier to understand for people who don't know notes or guitar chords. I'm pointing this out because, as you may guess, I don't know a lick about notation, but find one part of this song rather notworthy in a musical or music style context, which is the line "and *KEEP* you *SA-TIS-FIED*". Of course, it could just be they're singing it with a special ring on their voices because of the line's naughty connotation, but it's either the music or the way they're singing it (combined with the song's overall specific echo or delay) that seems to carry a special drive for me, where especially the sound of the four syllables/notes/chords on "keep" and "sa-tis-fied" sound an odd, extraordinary mix of ecstatic, dizzying, almost intoxicated/intoxicating to me, in a way that almost presages the height of psychedelia and the fact they would exhibit a tendency to be getting both into psychedelic drugs and psychedelic sounds in just a few years. The sound of that very line, somehow, strongly resonates with the overall psychedelic sound and mood of a song such as I am the walrus, Russell Morris's The real thing, or the "aaa-ooohh" background chorus from Skip softly (My moonbeams) by Procol Harum to me.
So, if any of what the article section is describing in notes and chords so far may relate to that, it'd be great if the section could make it clear by adding the relevant lyrical portions to help people who don't know notes and chords. But even if that's not the case, it'd be great to relate the special touches of "subdominant (IV) key F major" and "augmented chord" (whatever those may be) to their relevant lyrics, if such is possible at all (that is, if that are even bits of the song accompanied by verses). --2003:EF:13DB:3B40:FCBF:9EE4:B325:4BFB (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2019 (UTC)