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Date	Process	Result
October 15, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed
May 15, 2019	Good topic candidate	Promoted
February 8, 2023	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted

Current status: Good article

Songs

Can we get some sources for the songs? I don't know for sure that "Something That I'm Not" was about Lars, it could be about David Ellefson... or anyone else...

I removed the references to DM stealing songs from a "Kris Anderson". I am not even sure who this person is, but a Google search pulls up three webpages total with his name in conjunction with Megath, some of which have to do with a metal band called "The Reckoning" that cites Megadeth as one of their influences. Without a better source, I've removed this potential libel. -- nae'blis

This song could indeed be about anyone. But it is not about Lars Ulrich, or Dave Ellefson. --Slanderson 21:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I attended Megadeth's gig in Washington, D.C. in November 2004 where Dave explicitly stated that the song 'Something That I'm Not' is about Lars Ulrich.

That's not good enough.--Jeffery (talk) 03:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's what she said.--70.177.64.192 (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blackmail the universe

Most of the lyrics on this song (especially since the first break), are taken mostly from the movie "Thirteen Days" with Kevin Costner.

Editted Cover?

Anybody have any information on why an editted cover was released? I saw it once at Border's (Or was it Barnes And Noble...) but never saw anything about it on the Megadeth web site.

- The edited cover was released for sale on military installations. They felt it would be disrespectful or something along those lines to keep the original cover. I made a post about it on the official forums wondering the same question when it came out and Megadave, the site admin, explained why.

Of Mice and Men

Removed link to the book. I'm pretty sure they have nothing in common except for the name, am I wrong? -(BrutusCirrus 22:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

No basis at all

This album has many elements from Megadeth's '80s era. It's not hard rock. And without a verifiable citation, it should be taken down. Megadeth is a thrash metal and heavy metal band. If you people want "hard rock", go listen to Metallica's '90s stuff and see if it compares to anything except "Risk." -MetalKommandant (talk) 11:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cover art

Is man in the back of the booklet Boris Yeltsin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.192.104.142 (talk) 16:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The System Has Failed/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Bruce Campbell (talk · contribs) 04:44, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will review the article. Comments coming soon. Bruce Campbell (talk) 04:44, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

Lead

Why the unneeded extra space after the lead? Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Remove the two references in the lead. They're both used elsewhere in the article and leads generally only need references if they're referencing a quote or a controversial statement, neither of which overly apply here. Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:44, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

General

Move the songs section before the critical reception section. Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:44, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Can't there be more said about most of the songs? Each of the songs should have plenty of discussion in the reviews, and no mention of production styles or influences are made. Endgame (Megadeth album) does this much better, to cite an example.

There originally was some more info but I removed some of it because of a lack of verifiability. I really haven't found much in reliable sources about individual songs other than some of the main ones.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the stuff in the songs section discusses promotional things, such as songs being featured in movies and whatnot. Like with music videos, that should be in the promotional section. Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:44, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception

Megadeth is a legendary band and the album was a top 20 Billboard performer; are there not more reviews? After a quick Google search I found Sputnik music review. Add information from the MusicOMH and KNAC reviews to the reception section to expand it a little more. It's very brief currently. Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had looked around for more reviews, and indeed, I thought there would have to be more. Unfortunately, many that I had found were unprofessional (user reviews rather than staff ones, etc), but I will look around some more. So far as adding from the other two, I must have gotten caught up in other stuff with the article and forgot about it, so I will add some prose from those two.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: I did find another review, which I did add into the article. I believe that there are now five there.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel and bellow

No need to reference every single personnel credit individuality. Look what is done at Channel Orange, that's a better example of how it can be done. Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The charts aren't quite done properly; take a look at how they're done at Channel Orange for example, the full charts need to be written out. Done--L1A1 FAL (talk) 03:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is Blabbermouth like, the only publication that covers heavy metal?

It's just the one I use the most. If you would prefer, I can try to diversify it a bit more.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article has some issues before it can be passed. If you have any trouble or concerns let me know. Bruce Campbell (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]