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Chocky

Chalky is wrong. The correct title is Chocky.

Well if Chalky's owner has a website for him calling him 'Chalky', that seems to suggest the article has the right name. Martín (saying/doing) 21:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

chalky.!!!!! my names jonathan white, the name chalky derives from going to my freinds house when i was 5 and his father upon asking my name, aptly naming me chalky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chalky227 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability

Moved from User talk:Cavalryman § Chalky (dog)

– Cavalryman (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chalky (dog) is no longer a redirect. Is it significant enough? Condo951795 (talk) 13:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Condo951795 (talk · contribs) I have moved this discussion here to facilitate broader discussion. Per WP:GNG, A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I usually interpret the full paragraph as a minimum of two reliable and independent sources that provide significant coverage of the article’s subject. So let’s go through the sources cited in the article:

Celebrity chef Stein's dog dies, BBC, 16 January 2007

→ reliable & independent

→ significant coverage

Robin Oliver (13 September 2006), "Rick Stein's French Odyssey", The Age

→ reliable & independent

→ significant coverage

– on an undisclosed date in 2005 the dog was 15 years old

Laurie Bogart Morrow (2012), "Chalky", The Giant Book of Dog Names, Gallery, p. 88, ISBN 9781451666908

→ reliable & independent

→ significant coverage

– this one is debatable. The quote in the book is: Chalky Jack Russell Terrier (1989-2007) owned by English chef Rick Stein. Chalky’s Bite and Chalky’s Bark, two beers brewed by Sharps, were named after this dog. So popular was the little dog that his death was announced on the floor of Great Britain’s Parliament.

Normally I would think 43 words is a little short of “significant” coverage but am happy to hear other’s opinions. Courtesy ping to Andrew Davidson who recreated the article and added the last two sources. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

One BBC article yes ok but that's the whole gist of 43 word's article. The Age article is flimpsy. I fail to see why it can't be better as a redirect to the brewery which I improved. Condo951795 (talk) 06:06, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Readers using this title will be expecting information about the dog, not about beer. The fact that the dog's death was commemorated by a motion in Parliament demonstrates the notability of the subject. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:10, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"His popularity was such that M.P. Andrew Pelling tabled a motion in the House of Commons lamenting his death" - I have searched the Hansard archives and failed to find the motion by Pelling. Either the news article is wrong or it never happened. Whatever the case, how is that worthy as a source and an article? Condo951795 (talk) 06:53, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The news article is not wrong. I have added a citation to the Parliamentary records. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is wrong. It was an Early Day Motion and not debated [1] receivin only three other signatories. [2] Condo951795 (talk) 07:38, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]