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John Giles
Giles pictured in 2013
Personal information
Full name Michael John Giles
Date of birth (1940-11-06) 6 November 1940 (age 83)
Place of birth Dublin, Ireland
Height 1.70 m (5 ft 7 in)[1]
Position(s) Midfielder
Youth career
1954–1956 Stella Maris
1956–1957 Manchester United
Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
1957–1963 Manchester United 99 (10)
1963–1975 Leeds United 383 (88)
1975–1977 West Bromwich Albion 75 (3)
1978 Philadelphia Fury 21 (0)
1977–1983 Shamrock Rovers 42 (11)
Total 620 (112)
International career
1959–1979 Republic of Ireland 59 (5)
Managerial career
1973–1980 Republic of Ireland (player-manager)
1975–1977 West Bromwich Albion (player-manager)
1977–1983 Shamrock Rovers (player-manager)
1981–1983 Vancouver Whitecaps
1984–1985 West Bromwich Albion
*Club domestic league appearances and goals

Michael John Giles (born 6 November 1940) is an Irish former association football player and manager best remembered for his time as a midfielder with Leeds United in the 1960s and 1970s. After retiring from management in 1985, Giles served as the senior analyst on RTÉ Sport's coverage of association football from 1986 until 2016. The FAI voted Giles as the greatest Irish player of the last 50 years at the UEFA Jubilee Awards in 2004.

After winning an FA Cup winner's medal under Matt Busby at Manchester United, Giles moved to Leeds in 1963 where he played in midfield alongside captain Billy Bremner. The duo formed a central midfield partnership which was one of the best in English and European club football. Their pairing helped yield several major trophies in the most successful era in Leeds' history. Giles and Bremner both scored 115 goals for the club.

In his later years in football, Giles pursued a managerial career which saw him installed as player-manager and manager of, among others, West Bromwich Albion, the Republic of Ireland, Vancouver Whitecaps and Shamrock Rovers. Despite having an outstanding knowledge of the game, Giles personally never liked being a manager. He became disillusioned with aspects of the job, such as suffering at the hands of non-committal boardrooms, and left management permanently in 1985. He later declared that he had no regrets about quitting managerial life.[2]

After repeated encouragement from childhood friend Eamon Dunphy, Giles inadvertently entered the world of football punditry in 1986, and became a senior analyst on RTÉ Sport until 2016. In December 2019, he was employed as an analyst for Premier Sports' live coverage of the English Premier League matches. Also, he writes two columns per week for the Irish Evening Herald newspaper, and offers his opinions about the game on radio station Newstalk 106.

Club career

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Giles grew up in Ormond Square, a working class area of inner-city Dublin, where he developed many of the skills that would aid him in becoming a professional footballer.[3] He was encouraged to enter the game through his father Christy who played for Bohemians in the 1920s[4] and managed Drumcondra during the 1940s.

Growing up, Giles remarked "I didn't consider myself Irish".[5]

Giles was spotted in Dublin playing for Stella Maris, before he began his English career with Manchester United. He joined Matt Busby's team for a £10 signing-on fee in 1956. He was given an early first-team debut in 1959 after eight of the team died in the Munich air disaster in February of the previous year. Among the dead was Bill Whelan, who was five years older than Giles and also came from the Cabra district of Dublin.[6]

He was also chosen to play for the Republic of Ireland team by the age of 18.

Giles was a regular first-team player over the next four years, playing alongside Bobby Charlton and Denis Law. Manchester United won the FA Cup in 1963, where Giles played the defence-splitting pass which started the move towards a winning goal by David Herd.

After being out of favour, he asked for a transfer and joined Leeds United for £33,000. "I am going to haunt him", is what Giles said of Busby, to his wife Anne, after the Scotsman had forced his departure when freezing him out of the starting team.[7]

Giles would soon evolve into one of the finest central midfielders in England, as Leeds won the Second Division title in his first season there. In 1965, he was in the team which came close to a League championship and FA Cup "double" but missed out on both, to Manchester United and to Liverpool respectively.

Giles formed a strong partnership with Billy Bremner as Leeds manager Don Revie built a new team around them. The players had similarities in their styles and were a tremendous foil for one another. Giles was known as the creative force and Bremner as the ball-winner, but each was capable of doing the other's primary job.

In the 1967–68 season Leeds won both the League Cup and the Fairs Cup. That was the first season in which Giles was affected by injury, which meant he missed the second leg of the Fairs Cup final.[8] In the 1968–69 season, Giles was instrumental in Leeds becoming league champions in a then record 67 points from 42 matches at 2 points for a win, a record that stood for ten seasons. In 1970, Giles again had a magnificent season as Leeds chased three trophies but lost all three, the League went to Everton; the FA Cup to Chelsea after a replay; and the European Cup campaign ended at the hands of Celtic in the semi-finals.

In the fifth round of the 1971 FA Cup, when Leeds were unexpectedly beaten 3–2 by Colchester United, Giles scored Leeds' second goal as they almost came back from 3–0 down. Leeds regained the Fairs Cup but lost the League title on the last day, with Arsenal getting the victory they needed to earn the championship and form one half of a successful "double" bid.

Leeds won their first FA Cup and Giles his second when they defeated Arsenal 1–0 at Wembley in 1972, yet again they missed out on the League on the final day of the season after defeat to Wolverhampton Wanderers. Sunderland and A.C. Milan beat Leeds in the finals of the FA Cup and the European Cup Winners Cup in 1973, rendering Leeds trophyless again. Jack Charlton's retirement in 1973 also left Giles as the most senior member of the squad. In the same year, he started to combine his Leeds duties with a spell as player-manager of his country.

In 1974, a 29-match unbeaten run at the start of the season helped Leeds coast to their second title, but then controversy reigned after Revie quit to take over the England team. Revie recommended to the Leeds board of directors that Giles, nearly 34 and approaching the end of his playing career, should be his successor. The board instead appointed Brian Clough, a brilliant manager but a controversial choice as he had been publicly critical of Leeds in the past and was not an admirer of Revie. Clough and the players never got on – the players had wanted Giles too – and the board reacted by dismissing Clough with a big pay-off after just 44 days in charge. Giles still did not get the job though (that went to Jimmy Armfield) and concentrated on playing as Leeds chased a place in their first European Cup final. Giles himself never applied for the Leeds vacancy on those two occasions, his name had instead been put forward as a candidate by others. Also in 1974, Giles was nominated—along with Danny Blanchflower—by Bill Nicholson as his successor at Tottenham Hotspur. The Spurs board appointed Terry Neill instead.[9]

Giles was outstanding in Leeds' European campaign but was no longer an automatic fixture in the side. After appearing in the 1975 final, which Leeds lost 2–0 to Bayern Munich, Giles accepted an offer in June 1975 from West Bromwich Albion to become their player-manager, while still playing for and managing the Irish team.

Status within the game

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Giles is widely regarded as one of the greatest footballers to have come out of the Republic of Ireland.[10] High tributes have been conferred on Giles by hugely successful former managers such as Alf Ramsey, Matt Busby and Brian Clough. His status at Leeds United was noted when supporters there named him in the greatest Leeds XI of all time. His place in English football history was recognised in 1998 when the Football League, as part of its centenary celebrations, listed Giles on its list of 100 League legends.[11] When Giles was quizzed as to the differences between himself and another highly regarded former Irish player, Roy Keane, he said: "If forced to compare us, I'd say I was slightly more creative than him and he [Keane] was a better ball-winner."[2]

Reputation as a hard player

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In the early part of his career, Giles endured some rough treatment. This occurred when he suffered a career-threatening ankle injury at the hands of Birmingham City's Johnny Watts, and knee ligament damage sustained when tackled by Eddie McCreadie at Stamford Bridge.[12] Being a creative and diminutive figure, Giles thereafter accepted he would have to become a tougher player in order to avoid being singled out by opponents. On later becoming a pundit, Giles at length wrote about how he felt he had to become "a lion rather than a lamb" on the pitch so as to help achieve his full potential.[13] His primary reason for this was to avoid being labelled a hypocrite when the time came for him to give judgement on tough tackling by others.

Player-manager career

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Giles showed much promise as a young player-manager of the Republic of Ireland, as he combined his duties in charge of West Brom, where after a slow start, he won the majority of Baggies supporters over. Under his leadership, they were promoted from the Second Division in April 1976, and finished 7th in the First Division in 1976–77. He recently said the time he spent at West Brom was amongst the happiest of his career despite him not winning trophies there. However, his spell at the club also witnessed several clashes with the club's board over the financial running of the club, an area that Giles felt the board excluded him from too much. Giles even tendered his resignation over the matter on the day promotion was secured, although he was persuaded to change his mind and oversee the First Division campaign.[14] He resigned as player-manager at West Brom on 21 April 1977, the very same day as his former team-mate Jack Charlton resigned his managerial post at Middlesbrough, and moved back to Ireland to manage Shamrock Rovers until 1983.

He returned to the Hawthorns for a second spell as manager during the 1983–84 season, steering the side to safety despite losing his first game in charge 1–0 to Third Division Plymouth Argyle in the FA Cup.[15] The following season saw Albion start well and they were as high as 5th at Christmas, but finished 12th. However Giles' decision to sell fan favourite Cyrille Regis and top scorer Garry Thompson led to supporter disgruntlement, with the replacements Giles signed - Garth Crooks and Imre Varadi - proving unsuccessful.[15] He resigned as manager in October 1985 following a 3–0 defeat at Coventry City, a record ninth consecutive defeat for Albion.[16] Youth team manager Nobby Stiles, who was also Giles' brother-in-law, replaced him although, despite a slight improvement in results, the club could not climb off the foot of the table and, under Ron Saunders, finished in bottom place.[17]

Managing career

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Republic of Ireland

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As player-manager of the Republic of Ireland between 1973 and 1980, Giles oversaw a revival in the fortunes of the national side which had struggled for the previous decade. The 1976 European Championship qualifiers saw the international debut of Liam Brady and a more respectable showing. In the 1978 FIFA World Cup qualifiers, the side finished only two points short of qualification, defeating France at home during that campaign.

Shamrock Rovers

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During his five-and-a-half-year spell in charge at Glenmalure Park Rovers won the FAI Cup in 1978, he scored 2 goals in 4 appearances in the European Cup Winners Cup and captained Ireland nine times, scoring once. Giles played his last game on 14 December 1980 at Milltown, he was 40 years of age.

He resigned at Milltown on 3 February 1983, after having left his Ireland job in March 1980, and ventured across the Atlantic for spells in charge of clubs in the North American Soccer League. In 1981, he was hired to coach the Vancouver Whitecaps of the NASL. He held that position for three seasons, being named the 1982 North American Soccer League Coach of the Year.

Media career

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Johnny Giles (second seat from the right inside the little box) and the rest of the RTÉ soccer panel at Croke Park during the first leg of the 2010 FIFA World Cup play-off with France

Giles later returned to Ireland and settled into a much-admired career in journalism and started out as a pundit on Raidió Teilifís Éireann (RTÉ) in November 1986. He featured on Premier Soccer Saturday and its international and European soccer coverage, particularly their coverage of games involving the Republic of Ireland national football team. Giles contributed to RTÉ Sport's coverage of the 2010 World Cup[18][19] where prior to it starting he correctly predicted Spain would win the tournament. He is currently the leading soccer analyst on Newstalk.

Of the English Premier League, Giles is often critical of the methods of modern coaching, and in particular, younger managers, saying in 2016:

When you hear the younger managers talking, it's all about tactics now. If their players are not playing well, they change the formation. There's nothing about not passing the ball to each other or misplacing passes. It's all about, well the tactics were wrong. I've seen it so often, you hear it on the television as well. Their team is playing very poorly, they're 2–0 down at half-time, they're giving the ball away, kicking it out of play. Well what do you have to do, and they start talking about changing the formation. No matter what formation you play you have to pass the ball to each other.

He was also part of RTÉ Sport's studio coverage of the 2014 FIFA World Cup.

Giles left RTÉ Sport after UEFA Euro 2016 after 30 years with the broadcaster, his last appearance was on the night of the Euro 2016 final.[20][21]

Retirement

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Giles resides in the Harborne area of the city of Birmingham in England. He has played golf for many years, and at one time, played off a handicap of five, but with his advancing age his handicap has risen to 12, "a bad 12" he claims. To coincide with his 70th birthday, Giles compiled a first-ever autobiography chronicling his life in and outside of football which was released in November 2010.[22] In 2010, his autobiography, titled A Football Man, became the best selling book in the Republic of Ireland.[23] In it, he claims to be an admirer of cricket where he attended the occasional game in his spare time as a footballer.

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Giles was portrayed by actor Peter McDonald in the 2009 film The Damned United, which centred on Brian Clough's ill-fated 44-day spell as Leeds United manager in 1974. Giles successfully sued the author of the book, David Peace, who printed the work in 2006, from which the film was made. He said of Peace: "His book was outrageous. I'm portrayed as the scheming leprechaun. He [Peace] had me in conversations with Clough that never happened. It made Clough out to be a wild man whereas he wasn't drinking then. I didn't get on with him but I found him highly intelligent. Peace said the novel was fiction based on fact, trouble is, people assume it's the official version. The movie was a misinterpretation of the misinterpretation that was the book!"[24]

In another interview in relation to his taking court action, Giles said: "I took my stand because I was the only one alive who could do anything about it. The Clough family had no comeback. They couldn't do anything as Brian was dead, that was a huge influence (on taking the legal action)."[25]

As part of the settlement in the 2008 High Court dispute, the publisher of the book, Faber and Faber, was ordered to remove from any future editions the references perceived by Giles as damaging and untrue.[25]

Family

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In 1966, Giles married Anne, sister of Irish Olympic sprinter Paul Dolan,[26] with whom he had four sons and two daughters. Two of his sons, Michael and Chris, played for Shamrock Rovers; Michael from 1981 to 1983 and Chris from 1993 to 1995. Giles' father, Christy Giles, played for Bohemians in the 1920s and won a league title in his first season at Dalymount Park. His uncle Chris Giles (Irish footballer) also played for Ireland. Giles is a brother-in-law of Nobby Stiles, his former Manchester United team-mate, who married into the Giles family. His uncle Matt managed Transport to FAI Cup success in 1950.

John Giles Foundation

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In 2008, the Football Association of Ireland founded a non-profit trust to fund grassroots clubs and football at youth level. Giles, who had previously hosted charity golf events to raise money for good causes, allowed the FAI the right to use his image for the charitable organisation, thus giving rise to the John Giles Foundation. This would involve grassroots clubs taking part in sponsored walks called the "Walk of Dreams", whereby half the money raised by each club would go to the club themselves, and the other half going to clubs selected by the foundation.[27]

The inaugural event in 2011 was met with negative criticism, as the main walk ending at the Aviva Stadium was marred by inadequate toilet facilities at the stadium endpoint, along with expensively-priced food, a lack of bottled water and the absence of Republic of Ireland senior international footballers, whose attendance at the event had been promised, all of which went on to be discussed on RTÉ Radio 1's Liveline programme.[28][29]

While the John Giles Foundation raised some €700,000 for its causes during its lifetime, it emerged in 2019 that the FAI, under the stewardship of John Delaney had paid over €500,000 to former footballer Con Martin jnr, for the concept of the foundation, the fundraising walks and a kit-purchasing idea, payments of which were unknown to Giles at the time.[30][31]

In September 2022, the FAI announced the winding down of the John Giles Foundation, with a final donation of €55,000 being made to the FAI's Football For All schools programme.[32]

Career statistics

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Club

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Appearances and goals by club, season and competition[33]
Club Season League FA Cup League Cup Total
Division Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Manchester United 1959–60 First Division 10 2 0 0 0 0 10 2
1960–61 First Division 23 2 0 0 2 1 25 3
1961–62 First Division 30 2 7 1 0 0 37 3
1962–63 First Division 36 4 6 1 0 0 42 5
1963–64 First Division 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0
Total 99 10 13 2 3 1 115 13
Leeds United 1963–64 Second Division 40 7 3 0 2 0 45 7
1964–65 First Division 39 7 7 1 0 0 46 8
1965–66 First Division 40 6 2 1 12 0 54 7
1966–67 First Division 29 12 7 2 12 4 48 18
1967–68 First Division 20 7 5 1 10 2 35 10
1968–69 First Division 32 8 0 0 7 0 39 8
1969–70 First Division 32 13 9 2 9 4 50 19
1970–71 First Division 34 13 4 2 8 1 46 16
1971–72 First Division 38 6 7 4 6 0 51 12
1972–73 First Division 33 6 8 1 8 1 49 8
1973–74 First Division 17 2 2 0 0 0 19 2
1974–75 First Division 29 1 7 1 9 0 45 2
Total 383 88 61 15 83 12 527 115
West Bromwich Albion 1975–76 Second Division 38 2 4 0 5 1 47 3
1976–77 First Division 37 1 0 0 4 1 41 2
Total 75 3 4 0 9 2 88 5
English career total 557 101 78 17 95 15 730 133

International

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Appearances and goals by national team and year[34][35]
National team Year Apps Goals
Republic of Ireland 1959 1 1
1960 3 0
1961 4 1
1962 2 0
1963 3 0
1964 5 1
1965 3 0
1966 4 0
1967 1 0
1968 2 1
1969 2 0
1970 2 0
1971 1 0
1972 1 0
1973 1 0
1974 5 0
1975 4 0
1976 3 0
1977 4 0
1978 5 1
1979 3 0
Total 59 5

Managerial

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Source:[33]

Managerial record by team and tenure
Team From To Record
P W D L Win %
West Bromwich Albion 5 July 1975 24 May 1977 101 41 31 29 040.6
West Bromwich Albion 14 February 1984 29 September 1985 75 24 15 36 032.0
Total 176 65 46 65 036.9

Honours

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Manchester United[36]

Leeds United[36][37]

Shamrock Rovers

Individual

References

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General
  • Giles, John; Lynch, Declan (2011), A Football Man: The Autobiography, Hodder & Stoughton, ISBN 978-1-444-72096-9
Specific
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  2. ^ a b Doyle, Paul (29 April 2005). "John Giles". The Guardian. London. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  3. ^ Giles & Lynch 2011, p. 15
  4. ^ Bohemian FC match programme, Vol. 54, no. 16
  5. ^ "John Giles review: 'I didn't consider myself Irish'". The Irish Times.
  6. ^ "Irish Footballers : Manchester United : players from Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland : Played for Man Utd". www.soccer-ireland.com. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  7. ^ "Interview: Leeds legend John Giles". The Scotsman. 13 November 2010. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  8. ^ "Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Final Second Leg". ozwhitelufc.net.au. Retrieved 6 December 2020.
  9. ^ Remembering Spurs' last-gasp survival of 1974/75, The Football Pools
  10. ^ Fitzmaurice, Aidan (26 January 2011). "Top marks for Ireland's pass master – UEFA.com". UEFA. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  11. ^ "England Player Honours - Football League Legends". www.englandfootballonline.com. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  12. ^ "English Readers Join Giles High Club". pogmogoal.com. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  13. ^ "Mihir Bose " Johnny Giles: Bosses playing mind games are just bullies". mihirbose.com. 30 November 2010. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  14. ^ Glenn Willmore, The Hawthorns Encyclopedia, Mainstream Publishing, 1996, p. 82
  15. ^ a b Willmore, The Hawthorns Encyclopedia, p. 83
  16. ^ Willmore, The Hawthorns Encyclopedia, p. 84
  17. ^ Willmore, The Hawthorns Encyclopedia, pp. 162-3
  18. ^ Black, Fergus (2 June 2010). "RTÉ hopes Ossie and squad will spur fans to back home team". Irish Independent. Retrieved 2 June 2010.
  19. ^ O'Malley, Carl (2 June 2010). "RTÉ roll out big guns for their 56 live games". The Irish Times. Archived from the original on 21 October 2012. Retrieved 2 June 2010.
  20. ^ "'I'm not retiring' – John Giles confirms he is leaving RTE". Irish Independent. 24 March 2016. Retrieved 24 March 2016.
  21. ^ "Eamon Dunphy and Liam Brady pay tribute to John Giles". RTÉ Sport. 11 July 2016. Retrieved 13 July 2016.
  22. ^ "Johnny Giles: Leeds United legend's new book". Yorkshire evening Post. 29 October 2010. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  23. ^ Spain, John (18 November 2010). "Giles's book more than a match for bestsellers". Irish Independent.
  24. ^ "Publish and be Damned: Giles fights back for Revie and Clough". The Independent. London. 13 November 2010. Archived from the original on 14 June 2022.
  25. ^ a b "Exclusive: Clough portrayal helped drive Giles's libel bid". The Yorkshire Post. 12 November 2010. Retrieved 1 September 2016.
  26. ^ "Ballyshannon Links to Two Unusual Olympic Games". Ballyshannon Musings. 9 March 2013.[self-published source]
  27. ^ Tighe, Mark. "John Giles Foundation to be wound down by FAI". Independent.ie. Irish Independent. Retrieved 6 January 2023.
  28. ^ Tighe, Mark. "John Giles Foundation to be wound down by FAI". Independent.ie. Irish Independent. Retrieved 6 January 2023.
  29. ^ Tighe, Mark; Rowan, Paul (2020). Champagne Football. Dublin: Sandycove. p. 96.
  30. ^ Tighe, Mark. "John Giles Foundation to be wound down by FAI". Independent.ie. Irish Independent. Retrieved 6 January 2023.
  31. ^ Tighe, Mark; Rowan, Paul (2020). Champagne Football. Dublin: Sandycove. p. 98.
  32. ^ Tighe, Mark. "John Giles Foundation to be wound down by FAI". Independent.ie. Irish Independent. Retrieved 6 January 2023.
  33. ^ a b Johnny Giles at the English National Football Archive (subscription required)
  34. ^ Johnny Giles at National-Football-Teams.com
  35. ^ "List of International Matches". eu-football.info. 11 July 2016. Retrieved 13 July 2016.
  36. ^ a b "Johnny Giles - Irish Football Great". pogmogoal.com. Retrieved 3 June 2018.
  37. ^ Vernon, Leslie; Rollin, Jack (1977). Rothmans Football Yearbook 1977–78. London: Brickfield Publications Ltd. p. 491. ISBN 0354 09018 6.
  38. ^ Vernon, Leslie; Rollin, Jack (1977). Rothmans Football Yearbook 1977–78. London: Brickfield Publications Ltd. p. 490. ISBN 0354 09018 6.
  39. ^ a b Vernon, Leslie; Rollin, Jack (1977). Rothmans Football Yearbook 1977–78. London: Brickfield Publications Ltd. p. 491. ISBN 0354 09018 6.
  40. ^ "1969-1970 British Team of the Season". BigSoccer. 31 July 2011. Retrieved 17 April 2024.
  41. ^ "Registrar : Trinity College Dublin, the University of Dublin, Ireland". www.tcd.ie. Retrieved 27 January 2020.
  42. ^ "Giles and Gorham recognised in FAI Awards". Football Association of Ireland. 1 September 2021. Retrieved 1 September 2021.
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