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@DaxServer @Redtigerxyz could you refer any scripture or contemporary belief that Krishna is perceived as a deity rather than Supreme God? Sources like Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavada Purana etc. all refer Krishna as the Supreme God, thus I do not understand deity categorization —कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 15:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Traditions that concern Krishna emphasize nothing but Krishna to be Supreme God. That includes Bhagavad Gita, arguably the most well-known scripture of Hinduism, which declares Krishna as the Supreme God. For that, I believe Krishna should be emphasized as Supreme God of Vaishnavism. I couldn't trace any sign on Krishna being considered a deity on any scripture. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 15:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Krishna is not perceived as Supreme God in other sects like Shaivism and Shaktism and related Puranas. Also in Vaishnavism, Vishnu is generally the Supreme God; in Vaishnava sub-sects like Ramaism - Rama is Supreme; in these Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu. RedtigerxyzTalk06:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Krishna worship practice is not observed in Shaivism or Shaktism. And in Vaishnavism regardless of subsects all Vishnu Krishna and Rama is believed to be Supreme God. Subsects differ by the status of manifestations, not on the Supreme God. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 10:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apart from that, Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and His status is Supreme Self on Mahabharata. I have never encountered anything else in practice, but even if that was the case, His ontological status can never be observed as a deity or any other figure when narratives are considered as a whole. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"It is quite obvious that Allah isn't considered the Supreme God by non-Islamic traditions."
I am aware of what you are pointing out. I am just asking for a reference that Krishna is considered as a non-Supreme deity by tradition(s). —Krsnaquli || Contact - 16:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, but it's hard to prove a negative. The fact Shiva is considered supreme by Shaivites automatically implies that no other god/deva/deity (including Krishna) is. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 19:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the case of Krishna is completely different than the case of Shiva. Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and is the Supreme Lord per Mahabharata. Unlike Shiva, Krishna doesn't appear in any scripture as having any role other than the Supreme Being. Thus, Krishna figure could only represent the concept of "Supreme Lord", and all I asked was scriptual evidence that would prove otherwise. Even if there is some unpopular opinion that considers Krishna as a non-Supreme deity, Such opinion wouldn't represent any scriptural and authentic tradition.
Well, Krishna is subservient (to Radha) in the Radha Vallabha Sampradaya. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Krishna's supremacy isn't mentioned in the early bhakti poetry. The Gita Govinda is far more concerned with his amorous adventures, where Radha and the gopis see him as their young friend and lover, not as God. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 09:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that bhakti poetry doesn't focus on Krishna's supremacy or that Gita Govinda contains emphasis on Krishna's worldly role doesn't really refute the Krishna figure representing the Supreme Being, but Radha Vallabha Sampradaya indeed comes with a valid different perspective. If other editors also agree upon suggesting Krishna as a deity figure rather than Supreme Lord of Vaishnavism for Radha Vallabha tradition, I don't have much to say. But my idea still persists: that Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and he represents the Supreme Lord according to the Mahabharata and traditions that concern Him (except Radha Vallabha). —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General Comment: the img which you suggested is copyrighted by Bhaktivedanta Trust, and as per source, should be use under "fair use" for any purpose. Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜16:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding old image to Vishnu and Godd statue for Shiva.
why so much difference my dear @Dāsānudāsa
So many statue of Vishnu are found in world such as Angkor wat Vishnu temple, Cambodia, Garuda wisnu kencana, so many, add This
if you didn't add atleast change shiva image add old photo to shiva, treat all are equal, you promote Shiva supremacy and wiki user's shows bad light to Lord Vishnu.
only karma can teach you.
If you have humanitarian change and treat all as equal.
wiki users promote good article and treat everything as equally, even i didnt enter wiki and edits article. Very waste of time, even you peoples didnt add, even didnt give permission to edits. What irony
level-4 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
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